August 08th, 2013

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8/9/2013 01:09:06 am

Bruce,

Your suggestions are right on target. This is an area I know is crucially important, but I am not up to speed on some of the technical aspects of it. Your email and attached site map have given me a bit more understanding of how these things come together. Thanks for the education, and thanks for your work in putting this together.

It seems to me that the next challenge will be securing the copy to be included in each of these pages. There are 15 to 20 pages that will need some copy and another 10 to 15 that will need to be populated by links and connections. Perhaps we can divide these up among us and secure the material needed to fill the web site. What do you all think of this idea?

Bruce Lo link

8/14/2013 02:08:53 am

Ed,

Yes, it is a good idea to divide the work up among us to populate the site.

If we are basically happy with the structure, perhaps Ben and I can initially create the empty shell first (the site structure with links and "empty" pages) in the next few days. Then everyone can chip in and populate the pages with the appropriate contents. What do you all think?

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NB: Below should be posted earlier, But the link was not active then. So I place here now so that all discussion will be in one place.........

Hi Ed, Doug, Ciro, and Ben,

Following today’s conference call and after checking out the American Historical Association website, I would like to suggest a few ideas on the ASDAH website. I have attached a Word document showing (a) a draft website map, and (b) three design types for the webpages in this site.

1) I believe, we should capitalize on what Doug and Ben had already done rather than waste their good efforts. Thus we can continue to use “domainpriceright” to host our site (remember to renew by 8/30/13), and use “Weebly” as the site editor. If we find them not flexible enough, we can always change them in the future. As far as www.sdahistorians.org visitors are concerned they will not notice any difference on what tools we used.
2) I suggest we plan a website map that has SIX (6) top-level links, which may have further sublinks. The top-level links are:
• About Us – Telling other about ASDAH, who are the officers, constitution, membership, meeting minutes
• News & Info – Important news & information, people moving, institution news, new publications, press papers, copies of ASDAH Newsletters available for download here
• Conference – Next conference (Will have many subpages), Past conferences (brief description of the conference, location, links to photos), Past conference papers (listed chronologically)
• Research – List research areas of members, promote collaborative research, list funding sources if any
• Useful (or Related) Links –History departments in SDA universities & colleges, Links to SDA Church website, Adventist News Network, SDA Archives, SDA Heritage Center sites, American Historical Association etc.
• Contact Us – ASDAH contact address, feedback form, links to open blogs.

3) I also suggest that we standardize the look-and-feel of each webpage, providing clear navigation links backward and forward in the navigation hierarchy, and also distinguish between ”permanent links” (that are useful all the time) and “temporary info/links” (only important for a period of time). These features are shown on the three (3) types of webpage design in the attached document:
• Home page
• Inside page (a subpage of the top-level link)
• Leaf page (last page in a subsection chain, usually end of navigation)

We do not have to implement every feature all at once, but we can do them progressively. In this way we can get constant feedback from the users.

I am interested in finding out what you think about these ideas. Feel free to suggest modifications. Once we have a reasonable consensus, Ben and I can start working on them to implement these features to our current site.

Have a great day,
Bruce

Edward Allen link

8/14/2013 06:46:56 am

Thanks Bruce. I hope we hear from other folks soon. I will take the lead to divide up the sections and request information about them when that time comes.

The ASDAH newsletter will be sent out within the next two weeks and there will be information about the website an new constitution in that newsletter. Hopefully, that will raise the consciousness among the broader constituency and we will receive a good response from our requests for information.

Bruce Lo link

8/14/2013 08:28:52 am

Hi Ed, Doug, Ciro, and Ben,

This morning I “reorganized” the ASDAH website according to the structure that was proposed in my earlier email, (which Ed responded as okay). Please go to the website:

http://www.sdahistorians.org/

and have a look to see what do you think. I have completely re-designed the HOME page so that it reflects the page design proposed in the earlier email. The home page is not complete yet, so your input will be welcome. Please note that the content in the CENTRAL main area and the left panel will change as news become available. All the other panel will be relatively stable.

Please hover you mouse cursor over the any one of the 6 navigation buttons (About us, News & Info, Conference,…) on the top of the page just beneath the banner heading, and you will see all the subpages showing. If you see a subpage has a sign “>” on the right hand side, it signifies that it has its own subpages as well. The entire website “page map” is shown in the attached document called “ASDAH Website structure 2013-08-14.pdf”. This structure can be changed according to our liking. That is why I attached a date to it.

To make the website look professional, all pages should have similar design. So I suggest we all focus on the “Home page” first and come to some agreement about its layout. The right panel and the bottom panel should always be the same. Once we reached consensus, we should copy that layout to all the pages so that the entire website has a consistent look. The only thing we should change is the “large” center panel, and the left-hand panel.

At that point of time, Ed can dish out the tasks to different individuals to fill in the content of all the different pages (populating the website). Once that is done, we are in business. From there on, all we need to do is to maintain the website.

Hope this is a way to move forward.

Have fun and God bless,
Bruce

PS: Ed, if the Newsletter is ready, please ask Brain to give an electronic copy, and I can upload it to the website so that people can download it. In future, that will save lots of postage, at least for those who have Internet access.

Ciro Sepulveda

8/14/2013 10:34:35 am

Looks good! Its a great start. Maybe we could add past issues of the Newsletter. Someone may have them in digital form and they could simply be entered as reference to the history of the organization. I would offer to do some of the work but since I am not sure how weebly works I may need sometime to get to know the software. Great Job Bruce!

Edward Allen link

8/15/2013 04:22:50 am

Ciro,

Great idea to put past issues of the Newsletter on the web site. I will contact Brian Strayer and see if that might be possible. I would guess that if he doesn't have electronic copies, he will have paper copies that can be scanned and turned into pdf files.

As far as learning Weebly, I had to get some significant help from Bruce, but he managed to guide me through the process. I would be willing to learn with you and I would guess that Bruce would be willing to help us with some of the details.

Bruce Lo link

8/27/2013 01:05:09 pm

Ciro, I wrote to Brian Strayer a couple weeks ago. He told me that he does not keep older issues of the Newsletters. But he thinks Jim Ford may have archived some copies. ([email protected] ) Would you like to write to him to see if he has some old copies? If not, we may have to source them from among members. Once you got them and ready to post on the website, let me know, and I'll show you and Ed Allen how to post it to the page " Newsletters" on the website.

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